"I don't know if I believe in passion. Passion is the thing that lets us overlook how badly we're hurting."

Even though consequences are necessary to address the racism in technology, we have built a culture that refuses accountability.

The system won’t work if there are no developers. It also won’t work if we fire the sales team or get rid of the marketing staff or can the designers. Tech is an ecosystem, and it’s much healthier when we are working cohesively within that system.